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Gabe Newell Says Windows 8 is a “Catastrophe”
On Tuesday night at the Casual Connect game conference in Seattle, WA, Gabe Newell, managing director and cofounder of Valve, had a sit-down chat with Ed Fries, the former vice president of game publishing at Microsoft. There, while explaining that what’s holding Linux’s wide-adoption back is its lack of games, Newell dropped a TRUTH BOMB on Fries regarding his feelings on Microsoft’s forthcoming operating system revamp, Windows 8:
“We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It’s a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we’ll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that’s true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality.”
DAMN SON. Look out, Microsoft—Gabe just slammed your stuff all over the place. Apparently, he doesn’t have much faith in the new version of the venerable OS, which is set to launch on October 26. Now, as to whether or not this actually spells trouble for Microsoft is another thing entirely. Newell is an alpha-nerd, for sure, but it’s possible that his concerns won’t accurately reflect those of others. Not only that, but people tend to get pretty worked up about the newest version of Windows that comes down the pike, whether that worry is warranted or not.
Of course, considering Newell’s role in the eyes of fans versus that of Microsoft, it’s easy to see how his opinions might help to shape those of his legions of followers. I guess we’ll see this October, won’t we?
Via AllThingsD
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OK after reading this I am sure I won’t be buying Windows 8.
You should have been sure before reading this.
Its just awful.
I was going to stick with windows 7 anyways
99% Retards comment without even knowing the facts.
Windows 8 release preview is far better than developer preview and in most categories including gaming it superior to Windows 7.
Here are the benchmark results for all the retards http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-release-preview-vs-windows-7-benchmarked/20610
Liking or hating metro is purely personal, and I am not going to argue if its better or worse.
Gabe is worried because Windows 8 means death of Steam service! Windows 8 will have an app store which will sell the games directly and will be in direct competition with steam, if ever steam is ported to Windows 8.
He’s right. Windows 8 is designed for tablets and smartphones. Metro is a mess and Microsoft’s pushing for Apple’s niche will likely cost it the vice hold it has on Desktop OS’s to gradually fade. Losing the monopoly it has on PC games will no doubt be a huge blow, if Mr. Newell’s predictions are correct. Hopefully, OpenGL can evolve to a point where it can out-perform Direct X, as that’s what’s really holding Mac OS and Linux based gaming back.
That would be really cool but I can’t see that happening in the future… open source stuff will always have a hard time matching the functionality of software produced by a full team.
Open GL already surpasses Directx. The reason why OpenGL isn’t used more than DirectX is is because directx is designed for games, where as OpenGL is designed for professional graphics for professional applications. There’s a reason why most of the military simulators use OpenGL as opposed to directx.
Huh. I messed with OpenGL a little bit a few years ago and while I can see the potential of being better than DirectX, DirectX seems to have more functionality baked in. Instead of having to write your own shadowing algorithm you can just call the one in the libraries.
Granted OpenGL probably has a million shadowing libraries out there to use but it’s just an example. My graphics programming experience is minimal though.
He’s right the OS is designed for tablets and smart phones and not the actual desktop or PC. Microsoft seems to be wanting to push gaming to their console and not on the PC with this new OS and I won’t be buying it ever. When windows 7 becomes ubsolete in the future I will be switching to linux instead……
Well, me, I persanly hate windows since windows xp, I had never been near a windows computer since I bought a mac, and I have linux on virtual box, Ubuntu to be presise, and you sir, are telling the truth, infact, I’ll go beyond that, windows can lick my ass, ohh, and Microsoft, save your budget for something better than that so called OS, as it’s rubbish
I on the other hand have hated Macs since the iMacs and eMacs which never stopped crashing at all the wrong times.
Granted, I’d use Linux only if I could, but there’s too much of a lack of compatibility which forces me to run Windows.
Until he releases Half life 3 or Left for dead 3
I wont give a fuck what he says
You’re going to be waiting a long time brother.
every comment is hating on w8!!!! and i totally agree with Massarmy
The worst part of the whole situation is that the performance of Windows 8 is a sound improvement on previous versions. It’s just that Windows 8 is designed for mobile devices and users who tend to only utilize their computer for accessing the web and checking out feeds like Twitter and Facebook.
For those who wish to do more than simply access a few feeds and a couple of websites, it seems as though the experience will be more tedious than it should be.
Here is the bottom line people. Windows Rape as I call it, is windows seven, with some code fixes and efficiencies added, I will give it that. But if you LOOK AT THE SERVICES. There is now 4 more services running than windows seven had. So that does not make it faster. Windows 8 was not designed just for tablets and mindless internet zombies. It was an attempt, a very bad one, at trying to change the way people interface with computers, while at the same time making it so the most simple minded, rubbing shit in their hair retards could throw feces at the touch screen and eventually open up what they wanted.
They honestly screwed up. You do not take conventions that you have taught a customer over many years, conventions and designs that have become a part of peoples vernacular, and basically screw them up on purpose. Computer users are not all 12yr old girls (Charms bar). We are not monkeys throwing bananas at the computer. We expect professionality and contineuty in design. We expect self explanitory and intuitive designs that yes, also look cool. What windows 8 has done, is lie to its customers telling them its better and easier, when in fact the metro design is like a magic roof that appears and falls on you every time you try to do anything of value.
Think of it like this. You go to a car lot. You want to buy a car. The paint looks cool, the tires look cool, the rims look cool and its even advertised as being better than any other car and even its predecessor models, even has tinted windows. You are so trustful, because this car company and lot have always at least tried their best, even if at times failing, to make you a happy customer and deliver you a product you like, want and even at times need. So you just pay for the car without ever driving it, opening the doors or kicking the tires. You pay in cash. You then get the keys. You then go out to the car. You look at the remote door button. But, something is wrong. No picture of a lock, or an unlock. Just a picture of unicorn and what appears to be a fart and a roll of toilet paper. You begin mashing buttons and finaly the door opens. But when you try to get in, someone has wrapped the seat belt around the steering wheel. Which is for some reason on the roof. The gear shift is bedazzled, but its in the center of the back seat. The gauges are all upside down in the cluster. Instead of numbers and descriptions there is just stickers saying, zoom, zoomer, zoomest on what is supposed to be the speedometer, or the gas gauge?. The passanger seat is missing and has been replaced with what appears to be a green plastic crate. You open the hood, because atleast they didn’t screw that up, and its an engine, but someone has filled the rest of the engine bay, with lead. You then in a furry of anger go back inside to get your money back. They all look at you and say, “Did you open it?”. You say “Yes” they say, “No returns once packaging is opened” while eating freshly picked boogers from their nose.
That is what windows 8 is like for old users, half new users and new users. Its a new car with a steering wheel on the roof, a better engine with an engine bay full of lead with a bedazzled shifter in the wrong place and a milk crate for a passanger seat. A lot of shine, that pisses people off most of the time.
They still have a desktop mode and shit on Windows 8, do they not? What exactly is making it a bad OS? Can someone explain this to me?
I haven’t watched many demos of Windows 8 but I have seen one where they switched to the regular windows desktop. It looked exactly like Windows 7 so they don’t seem to have improved much there.
To explain, Windows 8 is a massive annoyance for someone without a touchscreen. I never found a way to disable the metro interfaces, and to click on the sides of the screen to bring up menus? Really? It DOES have speed and multitasking enhancements and runs smoothly. The store and tying Microsoft devices togeather is nice. Though, these are NOT worth a terrible and annoying interface and hidden admin tools and settings. To sum up good for touch scenes and average users, advanced users (most pc gamers) stay clear. I’m going to stay with my Windows 7 ultimate.
I don’t see why there’s so much distaste for Windows 8. I dual booted 7 and 8′s consumer preview with the intention of rarely using 8, but I really like the new OS. The only real complaint I’ve heard is petty. Sure the Start Button may be removed, but that little windows button on your keyboard works just as well. The Metro Start Screen works suprisingly well on desktop devices. I suggest all of you download the Release Preview and try out the new OS before you make such rash comments.
It only seems fitting that Valve will make a SteamOS.
I don’t see that the big deal is. Who cares if Linux or Mac’s don’t have support for Direct X games, that is the point, since Microsoft develops DX and has the best support for the gaming community of course games are be on Windows. I really hope another company comes out with a competing service to Steam so we don’t have to hear from this fat turd ever again.
Origin
…and it sucks big-fat-EA Donkey Balls
Funny thing is when they first started talking about windows 8 and shown some of it, I already did not like it. They wanted to go massive into the touch screen / xbox look a like setup. ( They actually where talking about touch screens way too much during the presentation, and it looked like some bad clone of the 360′s current setup. )
Granted they probably have done some changes since then, however with what I have seen I am already wanting to stay away from it. So they will have to really impress me if I am going to be getting it.
I agree with gabe. I like some of the new features in Windows 8 desktop but the rest like the metro and no start menu, its just awful. Either they include a option to disable all the touch screen and metro capabilities or that os is just going to be a failure
Meh.
I’ve actually had this opinion well before Gabe said anything, but I’m really glad he has said it. Hopefully it might open up more eyes, and hopefully more and more people will start speaking out against it.
THE GOD OF GAMING HAS SPOKEN!
Virgin sacrifices must be performed to avoid future mishaps.
It’s pretty simple, really:
Win 3.11 – revolution
Win 95 – terrible
Win 98 – awesome
Win ME – abomination
Win XP – timeless
Win Vista – ugh… no comments
Win 7 – nailed it!
Win 8 – you can see the pattern here…
95% of you commenters are fucking retards that can’t form your own opinion, and i bet at least half of those 95% haven’t even tried the consumer preview.
Do you even remember what gabe said about the PS3? I’m sure you’d all like to forget.
To me Gabe is just trashing anything that isn’t his own idea and and just talks smack other companies for having their own ideas.
But like that other guy before I don’t give a crap what he says until I see a left for dead 3 or half life 3 it’s weird how a game company that has such great franchise has yet to come out with another good game besides portal 2…….. I guess they just like their steam money….
I’m sticking with windows 7
if he’s right them windows 8 will became the new windows retarded vista and if more games became available in Mac them its “Hasta la vista baby”
There is a old saying if it’s not broken don’t fix it, this applies to windows 8. I have read comments from people saying its not crap you just don’t know how to use, why should i have to learn is my response if you uprgade you car from one model to another you don’ t get in the drivers seat to find the steering wheel has been moved to the back or that the hand break is now on the dash or the clutch is located on the side door.
Windows 8 is a mess it does not know if it wants to be a desktop OS or a Tablet OS and leaves most users not sure either, its performance increase over 7 is slight like one frame here or two frames there on high end games, i am not adverse to learning new ways of doing things but only if the new way provides some advantage over the old way nothing in windows 8 does.
I like to push sheep eyeballs up my bumhole