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The Mass Effect 3 Ending Is Not Changing, But More Content is On The Way
It’s no secret that the ending of Mass Effect 3 has sparked controversy among the users of the Internet and the gaming community. Fans are sending sarcastic cupcakes left and right, Bioware CEO Ray Muzyka has sent out an open letter to the Mass Effect community, and Reddit is still making imgur posts about the whole dang situation.
Many would simply like clarification on what steps Bioware is taking to handle the situation — and it seems today we might have received some.
In a twitter conversation on the EA’s Mass Effect account, a user expressed his “fulfillment” from the ending of the game:
“@masseffect pulled myself away from multi long enough to beat #ME3. I was emotionally completely fulfilled.”
To which @MassEffect replied:
“@kanjilikesboys We’re so glad you liked it. Don’t worry, your ending won’t be changed. We’re just releasing more content.”
Parse what you will from this, but that sounds like a slight confirmation of a non-changing ending. While this may be the case, it doesn’t mean that it can’t be expanded upon in this upcoming downloadable content.
In a conversation just minutes later, another user inquired about further clarification:
“@masseffect what about my question on if ending clarification will conflict with interpretations of people who liked the ending?”
Bioware responded:
“@mjfjd There will be more specifics about the content we’re working on later this month. Right now we’re still listening to feedback.”
What do you guys think? If you were upset by the ending, how does this change your feelings toward the matter? If you weren’t upset with the ending, what are your thoughts?
Convince us with your convincing words.
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It wasn’t so much that the ending was bad, its just that the endings were so similar
Ignorance is bliss. Anybody that played me1 and 2 will agree, the ending is BULLSHIT, 2 of the choices are diametrical against shepards character, and there was no ending, it left it to interpretation and no, the choices you made did not matter, exploding the relays killed off everybody you worked so hard to unite.
The catalyst character was also BULLSHIT, and not having the option to go against what he was saying threw out anything you had accomplished out the window.
This is something that can’t be undone. For that I say, farewell Bioware. I am keeping my money.
My guess would be they are gonna roll with the indoctrination theory. Even if accidental, they cat let that pass up.
So DLC will feature shepard fighting through the citadel. The real one. Not dream one. Stuff n things. Closure
The ending wasn’t what upset me. I had a journey through the game and saw some of my choices confronted. What I was expecting was for the characters to be given more attention. What happened to my encouraging Garus to become a crazy killer? Why was I only able to see my romance partners face through a Photoshoped picture? Why is it that I could watch one ending and already know everything about the other sixteen endings? I would never ask Bioware to change the ending because I felt that ME3 had done enough to please most fans. What I don’t like is the fact that everything was rushed to meet the release date. I’m sure all fans would have been pleased if Bioware cooked the game for another six months. Who knows? I might have actually had the chance to have an ending where Shepard grows old with a bunch of blue kids running around… It’s a shame…
It wasn’t a lack of differences but the plot holes and lack of closure. I just wanna know if the people I’ve been fighting for and have become to be attached to are okay. And also Space god. And the shitty reason for the reapers, and the fact that the ending has inconsistencies with the establish universe rules and theme.
I liked the ending and i dont know why people were whining about it. My thought is that theyll go with the indoctrination theory, just cuz it makes sense.
Whom ever this player is that stated that, “I was emotionally completely fulfilled”, must be kidding themselves or otherwise down right retarded. Look, the ending wasn’t what killed me either; don’t get me wrong it sucked and there is no doubt about it. However, the ending in it of itself stabbed my choices in the back. I, Commander Shepard, solved the purge of the genophage, I resolved the quarian and geth wars with utter happiness, I allowed for Joker and EDI to be together, and I came out on top with my bros Wrex, Garrus, James, and Javic. I also got down with Tali and that photo-shop thing is another story. My accomplishments in the end were thrown out by no matter what choice I had originally made. For example, if I had chosen to solve the geth wars with both races surviving and I chose the red ending in the end, my choice to let them both live in harmony would have never mattered in the end. The geth, EDI, and several other characters that you have charished and loved are dead because of a fucking red light. Just to set things straight here, the catalyst has down syndrome and the red, green, or blue ending sequences did not matter because they all threw out your long awaited choices from the three games.
gotta add to steven, I think the person what trying to be sarcastic, or was the same type of cattle that buys the modern warfare map packs for 15bucks a piece. They need to be re-educated.
it was the fact that there was no climax, we had the suspense and everything was built up to this pivotal moment and it fell flat, it was like a brand new story was started at the end of the game without the previous story ark ending at all.
Also what ever happened to narrative coherence, I thought that was kinda mandatory in all narrative games, seems like that completely died at the end of ME3.
You posted about CoD fans like you hate their kind, but just read your post. CoD fans swarm the market not only because it’s a social thing, but also because they want some sort of climatic roller coaster ride to get their adrenaline rush. ME3 isn’t about “thrill.” Sure, I was pumped when I was in some of the larger action scenes, especially near the end. However, the biggest seller for the franchise were the choices that were supposedly going to cost us big time in the end. We did stuff like *MINOR SPOILER* cure the genophage and united the geth with their creators, but we never saw what happened as a result. None of the choices in ME3 amounted to anything but walking in one of three directions and seeing the same cut scene with minor variations. THAT was the problem fans are having. As someone who went through ME1,2, and 3, I am disappointed. However, I can still say I enjoyed the experience.
P.S. The story plot holes were acceptable to me as long as they got the consequences right, which they did not.
in actuallity its not that I hate the fans of those franchises, far be it for me to criticize someone for liking something or hating it, the problem i’m seeing is a pattern of stupidity forming where people are becoming more and more gullible and are willing to accept anything, the term “it is what it is” comes to mind when looking at how these people think. It doesn’t concern me as much if they were children under a certain age its more concerning about when adults fall for it. What matters to me is when companies like activision put out a 3 map, map pack dlc for 15 bucks for a game that is mostly multiplayer and then post numbers like 300 million dollars worth of revenue. To break that down 100k copies of the dlc would only make 1.5mil, so to sell 300 million copies of the dlc you looking at 20 million copies sold. From a business major’s stand point theirs a profit to be had from the gullibility of others, same goes for what capcom and EA are doing now, they see a profit increase by cutting apart the game and selling it later on as DLC, bethesda and 2kgames were the test market to see how many people bought the broken steel dlc, or duke nukems the doctor who cloned me dlc(me included not going to lie, they are both good dlc’s but it doesn’t change what they represent) and we the gaming community fell for it and we’ll fall for it again and again, I know why the games ending is horrible but it doesn’t change that that regardless of how you view the ending whether indoc theory or not it was left unfinished so they could sell you the rest later. That was the point I was trying to make, we the gaming community need to stop falling for it as a whole not as individuals. This is where I make my stand, Capcom, EA, Activision, 2kgames are at the top of my boycott lists, I’ll start support good developers like rockstar, remedy, those guys who may the serious same prequel and mostly indie developers but the moment they are aquired by the above publishers, they go on the boycott list. I tired of being bent over
@meugenite – everything I said in my original comment is correct all you did was flesh it out. Narrative coherence is when a story comes together with a proper beginning middle and end and does not leave the user with unanswered questions that have not been properly explained.
I realize only now that narrative coherence doesn’t exist in itself as a single word, the terms exist individually are intertwined I will list out their definitions here
narrative: A narrative is a constructive format (as a work of speech, writing, song, film, television, video games, photography or theatre) that describes a sequence of non-fictional or fictional events. The word derives from the Latin verb narrare, “to recount”, and is related to the adjective gnarus, “knowing” or “skilled”.[1] courtesy of wikipedia
wikipedia has way to many listing for coherence i’ll have to search through my college english composition books later to find the full definition
coherence: to break it down, coherence is basically the flow of a story, or essay, it draws on the established information provided at the introduction to the essay or story, a document or story without coherence will ultimately fail to keep the attention of the reading audience and in turn very quickly dissolves and the reader or viewer cannot find a leg to stand on, Even the journalists on this site have to utilize coherence in their articles or the article breaks down into ramblings of mad men.
I understand the meaning of coherence (I’ve written many stories and research papers), especially how you referenced it. However, I still don’t think you’re on the right train of thought. You think people are mindless zombies purchasing these games? The devs are giving the fans exactly what they ask for. A boy at school tells his friends to go buy the next CoD so they can have a new experience together? Why not? The point is that they’re having fun. That’s kind of the point of gaming in general…
People line up and break CoD records annually because these devs have something unique to offer every year and then some. I have all three MW titles and Black Ops on my shelf and don’t regret a single penny spent. The narratives were compelling. The characters were defined. The protagonists and antagonists were always hard to determine. I was psyched to see the conclusion of Makarov since he was such a unique antagonist.
As for DLC… What are you going to do? Sue them? They aren’t making video games for pleasure. They are doing for money, just like all businesses out there.
And you’re boycotting? Sure. Go ahead. No one’s sitting on your chest and forcing you to buy every good game that comes out. Just don’t let the name of the dev influence your decision to pick up a good game. That would suck.
Love or hate it, this is how the industry is moving. RE is no longer scary because action brings in larger income. ME is losing its allure because of the business choices Bioware and EA made in the end (see what I did there?). So stop worrying about the fans and focus on what you enjoy. The fans can’t ruin a gaming experience unless you let them…
Lub,
Mugenite :)
leaving a response to megenite again: I understand what your saying and for the most case I don’t care what other fans do to enjoy their games and what the corporations do to make money, the problem I was trying to address, is that that the gaming community at large not the 10% like us, the community in itself is not asking for these changes to be made whats happening is the same thing thats happening in our country right now, the corporations are pushing the boundaries to see how much they can get away with, when they are stopped they make it go away and then find another avenue to accomplish what they want(ex. Sony was successfully sued and regarding an antipiracy software they put into their cd’s that cause some major damage to customers computers, two years later they now sell to corporation like EA an anti piracy software that does the same thing only in different form and industry but instead of a media frenzy lawsuit like there was with the music industry so the practice remained and down right violates a consumers rights but they got away with it, now sony’s next bit of consumer violation is the act that if you accept their term and conditions to use their gaming consoles full capabillities you are hear by banned from participating in a class action lawsuit against them shortly after the whole hacking scandal. Convenient that very few people actually caught that, we know this be we the people who research and go to sites like machinima pay attention to the details ,the community at large whether it be adult or children either do not care or are completely unaware of how their consumer rights are being violated., I don’t like the practice because I am a business major and it goes against every principle of how business are supposed to operate, in a business you aim to make your clients respect you and want to come back its almost like they companies have gotten so big they they don’t care about their very people who pay their salaries. The consumer/tav payer..
Soul,
Very well said. Indeed, the industry and especially certain publishers/devs are moving in a direction I have been nervous about for some time. We get less content per our $60 retail and more DLC after launch. And to be fair, I know the CoD map packs are ridiculous. What scares me was the fact that another publisher, EA, is starting to mimic Activision. I have to this date refused to buy any DLC packs, including those from ME2 and ME3 because I hate losing what might have been included in the original deal to begin with. After this gen of consoles, I might consider pushing to PC gaming if the consoles fail me. I just hope that I can still call myself a gamer ten years from now…
Mugenite
indoctrination theory should fit in here…as long as i get content with logical ending, doesn’t even need to be a happy one…im pleased.
Whoever came up with the indoctrination theory was a complete retard. No, it wasn’t some high Shepard was on. He actually went out and did that. MINOR SPOILER – —- At the end of the game, the conversation with the man and boy meant one of two things: Shepard survived or that Bioware was considering making a new series in the form of prequels. Bioware kept talking about the Harvest and Contact wars as if they were Lucas’ Clone wars, so they just might. The only thing they could do now is sweeten the journey to the end and maybe toss in one more clip that doesn’t completely p*ss the fans off. Indoctrination theory = bullsh** :D
We can only hope that Bioware’s next move regarding the ending is a good one…
Bioware: “They actually want more? Ummm….. DLC!!! You give us money! We love you long time!!”
In retrospect to the common belief of a horrible ending I still believe that the game would deserve a ten out of ten. The Game was exhilarating all up until the last few minutes. My issue with the indoctrination theory is that it’s more of an excuse to find a better ending than what bioware has given us. Yes this theory could make sense and yes the ending was even worse than the show ending to lost. In light of all the hell that has happened to bioware lately, we as the fans can hope for bioware and their new ideas of downloadable content.
Look, in all honest truth I kinda saw this horrible ending coming. Bioware has not been on a role lately, if you haven’t noticed. Dragon Age 2 was decent but wasn’t even a good game compared to its predecessor. The Old Republic was not only 60 dollars but had a 15 dollar monthly fee. The game in of itself was like playing every other KOTR game except there happened to be other players around you. How in gods name can anyone charge you this much for something this ok at best, that happens to have multiplayer. Of course there was that mass effect book problem but that wasn’t so much as bioware’s fault. Lastly we have the actual game. The Tali photo-shop thing was a true act of laziness and there was that Javik thing. In light of everything that has happened yes i am a bit pist at bioware.
I am completely fine with the ending even though it felt like something from Dragon Age. Plus Shepard is obviously going to live somehow because the stargazer said there are more tales to tell.
I’m fine wiht the ending. It was a product. I bought it.
I’m not entitled to anything.
wow…..just wow……… you have been brainwashed my friend
As a consumer your entitled to make certain that the creator of the product delivers on their promises even if its used car dealer there can sometimes be lemon laws in place depending on your state but back to my example. Lets apply a real world example to this logic. If you purchase a car and the cars ad states that the car is brand spanking new, with a cd changer, stereos, working head lights, break lights, flashers, auto windows, working dashboard, working transmission, All fluids checked and filled, car cleaned, and etc.
but you get a car where everything else is correct but they take out the muffler to sell to you later and the transmissions not working do you just take the car and drive it home saying i’m content and don’t deserve to get these things fixed, no you go to the dealer and say hey wait a minute if you don’t fix this then i’m using my legal right as a consumer to report you to the FTC and can sue you to get things fixed. The dealer has one of two options they can A) stick to their guns and watch a lawsuit is files and word of mouth spreads about their company or B) they can put things right and fix the everything to make good on their promise and hope that you don’t tell your friend and family your experience.
Legally you can demand Option B, if you choose option A your telling the company that they can continue to push your limits to see what else they can get out of you before you snap and then they will do the same to a new prospective customer.
As a consumer if you are promised something in order to pay money for it, it is considered a verbal contract which can work both ways, If you pay for the item the creator has an obligation to make good on that contract, if you retract your money for the item after the creator has sent it to you they can use the law to the full extent on you. These laws regarding contracts were not designed solely for corporations they were designed to protect both parties regarding a transaction.
I don’t want to here that I should be content receiving a half done product, if I am required to pay the full amount for my rent, health insurance, car, cellphone, food and my Hobby you can Bet that I demand the full use of those services.and there is no difference when it comes to a movie or a game, if its bad I make my voice heard, when the industry is bad I make my dollar heard.
I bought Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back and didn’t like it… I’m entitled to have Lucas change the ending, right? Right? l:/
It is better this way…
GOD DAMN IT FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soulprovider, i may hate the ending but i don’t hate the product. Get a grip man. If bioware is half decent, and i know they are, then they will learn from there mistakes and fix the problem. Otherwise, if you hate the entire game then don’t play it.
I may hate the ending but i stand clear in giving Bioware a chance to fix this mess.
i liked the ending, i dont mind if they expand upon or clariffy the ending (e.g. shepard wakes up, fate of the galaxy, fate of crew… anything post-indoctrination) so long as they don’t tell me that what they decided to put in the game is not the ‘true’ ending, that would be bloody stupid and for that reason i hope all the protesters dont get there hopes up
if the game had of ended with shepard siting becide anderson at the end, i would have been fufilled, insted of some bull about destroying the relays and controling the reapers and some kid called the catalist imean how long has he been up there, why had no one found it?i mean wtf?
MINOR SPOILERS
Agreed. If it had stopped right there with Anderson, and then slowly started the clips of consequences for my past choices… I would have been content. I didn’t need some alien boy to make me feel like a tool… Bioware needs to go back, fix inconsistencies, give us the consequences at the end, and, for the love of God, show us Tali’s F***ing face!!! I went through 3 games just to romance her! WTF was that pixilated photo?! I nearly ripped my hair out!!!!
Oh, and f***ing killl Vega… He was the most retarded character I have ever seen… And that engineer on his floor… And Chobot… Seriously, why did they put those three in the game? I would have rather them sacrificed all those mini-quests on the citadel, cut out those three, and then cut out multiplayer entirely so that I can have a proper ending…. Vega…. Damn you…